Subject	2nd. This should definitely be pursued.
Posted by	cherry on September 08, 2011 at 1:00 PM
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In Reply To	While the sentiments are noble... posted by vorpalZ on September 08, 2011 at 12:05 PM
Message	As Evan suggests, an organized effort would certainly bring the problem to the attention of Z owners. That's the biggest issue -- regardless whether AMS is present at events or not -- their potential customers ought to be made aware of their business practices. I like the idea of having a flag or maybe a pin of some sort made. It could be easily arranged, cheaply made, easily distributed, and worn at ANY Z-related event. In addition to the "no AMS" symbol, the pin/flag should include a URL. That URL should be a domain that's easy to remember, and should be a simple site describing the issue.
Follow Ups	West Coast people better plan on making it to ZCON 2012 - Piranha 00:01:34 09/08/11 Dust or bust...Just in case the Mayans had it right (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 00:04:31 09/08/11 That's true... this could be the last one ever lol (n/m) - Piranha 00:07:54 09/08/11 Along with the Hindu and Hopi, they all bailed out - ttz'in (NorCal) 00:11:27 09/08/11 Great vid Shane, even if it iz 145 megs, lol. - ttz'in (NorCal) 01:53:58 09/08/11 Cali-busters won't show. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 00:16:34 09/08/11 No loss,we're going to get HighPsi (NorCal) &.. - ttz'in (NorCal) 00:27:40 09/08/11 I can't wait for that. If y all are down, I am planning on - HighPsi (NorCal) 01:16:28 09/08/11 Yes Sir, great place to caravan from - ttz'in (NorCal) 01:21:06 09/08/11 Maybe we can get Greg/Seb/Brooke out on the town as well (n/m) - HighPsi (NorCal) 01:47:16 09/08/11 Along with Mr.Hornsby and 100 crazed Z owners (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 02:02:19 09/08/11 Yea an SZ Dyno/Tuning day sounds like a good idea! - Piranha 08:48:55 09/08/11 Sounds awesome, let me know. (n/m) - HighPsi (NorCal) 11:28:02 09/08/11 LOL..your setup has to be stupid fast alrerady! - The Hawk 11:48:51 09/08/11 Ka-Boom ! lol. (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 17:55:33 09/08/11 Who needs a retirement account when you have cars? - HighPsi (NorCal) 19:48:15 09/08/11 You better be here! Remember a few years ago sitting - Piranha 08:34:44 09/08/11 I'll be there - getting the car there is the trick. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 21:25:05 09/08/11 I'm hoping to make it. I believe ttz'in and I will be - Wright (Ca) 00:19:25 09/08/11 Hoping ? You must be kidding. If an old man like.. - ttz'in (NorCal) 00:48:58 09/08/11 Road trip! - 1BADTTZ (SoCal) 00:37:09 09/08/11 Re: Road trip! - jmallard 01:48:28 09/08/11 Yep - me too. (n/m) - ELIM 14:26:22 09/08/11 I effin' hope so - BlackholeZ 00:42:42 09/08/11 I think I can take that title :[ (n/m) - JonnyZ(SoCal) 00:48:40 09/08/11 I looked at your profile - BlackholeZ 01:49:37 09/08/11 We like all Z32s here... more the better! (n/m) - Piranha 08:57:07 09/08/11 one way or the other i'll be there. - nemo1080 (Iowa) 00:54:16 09/08/11 Least we forget Messers Dupree & Chacoff... (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 00:57:17 09/08/11 Will AMS be a sponsor? - Evan(CA) 02:02:35 09/08/11 Would be a great idea, especially to add HaloZ's tagline (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 08:49:10 09/08/11 2nd (n/m) - Zski 09:07:55 09/08/11 This was my thought. - FuerGrissa 23:52:11 09/08/11 Will definitely be there - ZXRider 02:27:32 09/08/11 Cool Ben, B good to see you again. (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 02:44:54 09/08/11 Bringing the new Z? - ZXRider 15:25:54 09/09/11 I'll be there. (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 02:39:12 09/08/11 `yep - Halo TTZ 04:54:16 09/08/11 If AMS is a Sponsor then I will boycott 2012 ZCON!!!! - Zski 08:26:42 09/08/11 That will be up to the ZCCA (n/m) - Piranha 08:31:53 09/08/11 I know... But I really hope AMS is not a sponsor... - Zski 08:37:59 09/08/11 Zcon hasn't been out this way since AMS became known... - Piranha 08:55:41 09/08/11 Wishful Thinking, but I hope you Right!!! (n/m) - Zski 09:06:06 09/08/11 Or to close to the other border, lol. (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 17:46:49 09/08/11 Why the hate on Texas? Texas is amazing to drive through. (n/m) - Milo (SATX) 14:58:31 09/08/11 None ;) (n/m) - Zski 16:12:43 09/08/11 Yeah, amazingly flat.. (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 17:48:00 09/08/11 wrong. (n/m) - 300twinz (satx) 21:50:48 09/08/11 The excitement faded after the first 10 tumbleweeds. (n/m) - rojoloco (San Diego) 14:00:28 09/10/11 What a great place for Mike Smith and Vuk to have a face to - DarkZide 19:23:21 09/08/11 Yep like you and your AMS beer lol - Piranha 20:57:05 09/08/11 Here... - Piranha 21:03:10 09/08/11 It's cheaper than american beer, but gives a worse hangover! - DarkZide 21:52:29 09/08/11 Not sure if things have changed but it has been - 300twinz (satx) 08:55:05 09/08/11 I'm curious... how much money do they pay to to be a - Piranha 09:01:13 09/08/11 for 2011 ZCON it was 6k+ - Zski 09:03:53 09/08/11 sounds like its time for tt.net members to start taking up - Adam (NoVA) 10:30:36 09/08/11 Steep, but if we could get 20 people to sign on, I'd do it - BigTDogg (MA) 10:58:25 09/08/11 While the sentiments are noble... - vorpalZ 12:05:36 09/08/11 2nd. This should definitely be pursued. - cherry 13:00:44 09/08/11 Something like this: - cherry 15:50:45 09/08/11 Buttons are too small - would be largely unnoticed from afar - dogpile 16:04:08 09/08/11 Either way. My point is that opposition should be - cherry 16:35:55 09/08/11 fair enough on the button reply. - dogpile 16:55:41 09/08/11 How aboot something simple: - vorpalZ 17:43:10 09/08/11 Am in for t-shirts with that logo on it. - 300twinz (satx) 18:08:43 09/08/11 If we have 100+ cars flying flags there is no way they - Evan(CA) 18:15:39 09/08/11 They'll be cheaper if AMS copies them. (n/m) - Rob'Z 19:31:49 09/08/11 AMS gave $3750 worth of Cash/Product for ZCON 2011 (n/m) - Zski 12:01:13 09/08/11 tragic (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 12:48:02 09/08/11 100 sets of their tin foil manifolds, awesome. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:05:32 09/08/11 No they didn't. - Bernie (NoVA) 13:45:14 09/08/11 Which non-Japanese exotic car will Vuk show up in next time? (n/m) - Aqualung 13:49:09 09/08/11 I head they will bring a new new beetle - Halo TTZ 17:16:51 09/08/11 AMS / China' s Next Car show cased at ZCON 2012 - Zski 09:39:20 09/10/11 Yup, and some other things you didnt mention... (n/m) - Zski 16:11:50 09/08/11 did u fall for the free rooms bit? (n/m) - Halo TTZ 16:55:13 09/08/11 Halo, Me Personally? (n/m) - Zski 16:58:00 09/08/11 so 2011 planning committee did... - Halo TTZ 17:13:17 09/08/11 Halo, To my knowledge.... - Zski 17:28:44 09/08/11 fail. - Halo TTZ 17:34:00 09/08/11 Sorry, I miss understood you Halo... This is what they got>> - Zski 17:40:16 09/08/11 Fail on my part, i should have worded it better. (n/m) - Halo TTZ 17:56:15 09/08/11 Exactly you guys set the packages and the vendors - 300twinz (satx) 18:10:09 09/08/11 I think that some real constructive progress could be made - Adam (NoVA) 18:26:37 09/08/11 300twinz, I am not sure who made the Sponsorship packet... - Zski 18:35:25 09/08/11 I can double check but am pretty sure for 2009 - 300twinz (satx) 10:30:02 09/08/11 Been there, tried that... they DO NOT care. (n/m) - Multi_Read (MO) 09:19:39 09/08/11 this is the other correct answer - LJZTT 12:50:45 09/08/11 Re: this is the other correct answer - Dallas DamonZ 13:05:48 09/08/11 Damon4Prez (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 13:13:48 09/08/11 Very true!!! Hope you can make it out here Damon :) (n/m) - Piranha 13:20:08 09/08/11 Did you get my email this morning? (n/m) - Dallas DamonZ 13:30:34 09/08/11 Why do we have to do this.... >>>> TTcon > ZCON - Zski 16:16:41 09/08/11 well, my top 10 reasons would be... - Adam (NoVA) 16:48:09 09/08/11 Yes I just just did. - Piranha 16:50:29 09/08/11 :-) (n/m) - cherry 14:56:12 09/08/11 couldnt have said it better myself (n/m) - LJZTT 09:42:45 09/09/11 Agreed 1000%, I'm sure there are true enthusiasts left at - BigTDogg (MA) 10:05:24 09/08/11 Right Behind you Brother (n/m) - Zski 10:13:26 09/08/11 Will never happen. - ZiNnYc 12:05:43 09/08/11 Even if it did happen, wouldn't ZCCA just see it as that - dogpile 12:15:37 09/08/11 this year yes it would happen, but if someone took the floor - LJZTT 13:09:34 09/08/11 All that has been said though, by numerous people. - dogpile 13:19:25 09/08/11 Gotta go "Ross Perot" with it, pictures speak volumes (n/m) - LJZTT 19:26:39 09/08/11 I've come to the conclusion that ZCCA will continue to take - Bernie (NoVA) 11:01:24 09/08/11 Re: I've come to the conclusion that ZCCA will continue to take - Dallas DamonZ 13:02:23 09/08/11 This is very true. When sitting down and going over - Milo (SATX) 15:01:03 09/08/11 Agreed, that's why I'm not going. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 08:48:35 09/08/11 plus that would be a long drive - Piranha 08:53:03 09/08/11 Not gonna happen unless I fly out there. Still, there's a 1% - BigTDogg (MA) 13:02:38 09/08/11 Fly into L.A. T, hang @ SZ head to AZ and fly home - ttz'in (NorCal) 17:52:45 09/08/11 I agree with your points, but - dpjax 08:49:51 09/08/11 Yes, but to Aid the true R&D Companies... Its worth it! (n/m) - Zski 09:02:20 09/08/11 How do the sponsors work exactly? I may have an idea (n/m) - Aqualung 10:17:57 09/08/11 if you have cash or parts you can be a sponsor - Adam (NoVA) 10:32:46 09/08/11 This is the correct answer - LJZTT 12:48:17 09/08/11 Suggestion: start a sponsorship fund - kuah@splparts.com 13:38:41 09/08/11 agreed - Adam (NoVA) 13:40:02 09/08/11 Sorry Adam, missed your post :) (n/m) - kuah@splparts.com 13:42:12 09/08/11 great minds... :) (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 14:02:30 09/08/11 . - ZiNnYc 13:57:14 09/08/11 613.29 - Bernie (NoVA) 14:34:57 09/08/11 I'd be in on that... - zfreak(Dallas) 20:58:19 09/08/11 They should do one in Canada one of these years... - fuzzymonkey 12:21:55 09/08/11 2001. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 12:47:39 09/08/11 Vancouver would be great.... - Halo TTZ 17:35:56 09/08/11 Looking Forward to it Shane! Let me know if there is - DarkZide 19:19:30 09/08/11 Need to clarify a few things... - Piranha 19:50:46 09/08/11
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